Aanoodizewin, The Commercial Determinants of Indigenous Health Episode 2: Tobacco
In this episode, Amy and Daniel speak with Perry McLeod-Shabogesic and Andrew Waa about the tobacco industry.
Aanoodizewin is a podcast by Professor Amy Shawanda and Daniel Eisenkraft Klein, academics who have studied the commercial determinants of health in the context of Indigenous communities. In this podcast, they receive expert guests from around the world to discuss how different industries affect and have affected the health of Indigenous Peoples in Canada and worldwide.
Aanoodizewin is availabe on Youtube, Spotify, Apple Music, Iheartradio and Google Podcasts.
About the Guests

Perry McLeod-Shabogesic
Podcast Guest
Perry McLeod-Shabogesic of the Crane Clan is an Ojibway Anishinabe from N’biising (Nipissing) First Nation (NFN). He is the Manager of Cultural Services for the Niinjaansinaanik Child & Family Services in Dokis First Nation. He is an Elder/Helper/Resource Person for our member First Nations of Wasauksing, Shawanaga, Magnetawan, Henvey, Dokis, and Wahnapitae First Nations. In this role he has been assisting children & families and First Nations staff in the area of traditional medicine, teachings, ceremonies and workshops.

Andrew Waa
Podcast Guest
Andrew Waa (Ngāti Hine/Ngāpuhi (tribal affiliation)) is an Associate Professor based at the Eru Pōmare Māori Health Research Centre, Department of Public Health, University of Otago (New Zealand). He is a Co-Director of ASPIRE2025, a collaboration of researchers working towards a Smokefree Aotearoa/New Zealand. Andrew’s research work focuses on Indigenous health and wellbeing, tobacco control, and programme evaluation.